In episode 37 of his newest production, “Tucker on X,” host Tucker Carlson interviewed Glenn Greenwald, host of “System Update” on Rumble, on the current war in Ukraine and the 2024 presidential election.
Ep. 37 The two defining tragedies of our time — the war in Ukraine and the presidency of Joe Biden — are both finally coming to an end.
(00:17) Glenn Greenwald joins
(05:41) Will the Ukraine War Hawks ever apologize?
(07:25) Using foreign wars to punish Americans… pic.twitter.com/vTVXqNNPhT
— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) November 7, 2023
During the first segment of the 27-minute interview, Carlson said America and its European allies provoked the war between Ukraine and Russia “on purpose” due to the knowledge of Russia’s red line when it came to “native expansion onto its borders.”
Greenwald agreed, adding, “Yeah, I mean, this idea that if you talk openly about providing a security relationship with Kiev or especially talk openly about allowing NATO to go right up to the most sensitive part of the Russia border by including Ukraine in the alliance, the idea that that would provoke an automatic war between Russia and Ukraine is something that Washington has known for decades.”
Greenwald added that he thinks the “greatest fraud” of the entire Russia-Ukraine conflict is the fact that American leaders who have been claiming they are “so concerned about Ukrainians were in fact totally indifferent to the Ukrainians.”
“They were willing to sacrifice Ukrainians and Ukraine at the altar of getting back at Russia, I think in large part because they wanted to extract vengeance against Russia for what they perceived to be Russia’s role in helping Donald Trump win the 2016 election and causing Hillary Clinton to lose.”
Pivoting to the 2024 presidential election, Carlson displayed a poll showing GOP frontrunner former President Donald Trump leading incumbent President Joe Biden in five out of six swing states. Carlson also played a video montage of mainstream media outlets – including CNN, CBS, and ABC – highlighting Biden’s decline in popularity among American voters.
Reacting to the montage, Greenwald noted how the anchors of the media outlets seemed “completely petrified at the idea that Trump would win” in 2024.
“They really view Trump as this ultimate menace,” Greenwald added.
Greenwald also noted how it does not seem as if the Republican Party is going to drop Trump despite his legal woes, saying, “I don’t see anything in the Republican Party, obviously, that can change, that suggests that they will abandon Donald Trump.”
Towards the end of the interview, Carlson said, “I’ve never sent money to a politician, but if Trump is convicted then I’m sending him the max. I think a lot of people feel that way. Just as a middle finger.”
As of press time, the latest installment of Carlson’s video podcast, posted at 5:31 p.m. Central Standard Time on Tuesday, had over 41.1 million views. The 37 episodes posted by @TuckerCarlson have been seen well over 3 billion times on Twitter / X.
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